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That is the difference of opinion between Māyāvāda philosophy and Vaiṣṇava philosophy. The Māyāvāda philosophy says that the Supreme is …

But we follow that the cloud covers the small particles of sunshine. But sun remains as it is. And we …

Is there any question?

Devotee (1): Is the cloud in our mind, or is the cloud in the sky also?

Prabhupāda: Everything is in your mind. Yes. So you have to clear your mind. That's all. Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12].

The whole process is to clear the mind. Yes?

Devotee (2): Prabhupāda, even when the mind is cleared, does there not continue to be an objective temporary existence of …

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Devotee (2): So is that material principle which is manifested in beings is gone?

Prabhupāda: No. Material principle is side by side. Just like the cloud is always there in the sky, but if …

[O son of Pṛthā, those who are not deluded, the great souls, are under the protection of the divine nature. …

Mahātmā, those who are mahātmā, great souls, they take shelter of the nature where there is no more cloud. Then …

Devotee (2): But the cloud still exists within the mind.

Prabhupāda: That doesn't matter. The police exists, but if you are not criminal, it has nothing to do with you. …

[This divine energy of Mine, consisting of the three modes of material nature, is difficult to overcome. But those who …

Police has nothing to do with law-abiding persons. Let the māyā remain there. You have nothing to do with her.

Yes?

Guest: Swāmījī, we always think of the pictures of Viṣṇu and Kṛṣṇa. There are, full of pictures here, and also …

Prabhupāda: Image... The image..., we are not worshiping image.

Guest: No, what I meant was in the very abstract sense of God, as we're talking about with Brahman...