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Nitāi: Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. [devotees repeat] [leads chanting of verse, etc.]

[SB 1.8.19]

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Prabhupāda:

[SB 1.8.19]

So one side is māyā-javanikācchannam. Māyā, this illusory energy, is covering with the curtain. Just like we are seeing the …

The whole world is covered. This is one side. And the other side = ajñā. Māyā-javanikācchannam ajñā... These materialistic persons, …

So these two classes of men... Mostly people are infected with these two kinds of modes of material nature, rajas-tamas. …

Brahmānanda: Hundred and ten.

Prabhupāda: Hundred and ten.

Brahmānanda: Two of them.

Prabhupāda: Two of them. They're increasing. They are thinking by increasing the stories more and more, that is advancement of …

Now, if we say that "You are all foolish, rascal people. You are wasting your time in this way," they …

Devotee: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Yes. That is... And in Sanskrit, as in English it is A to Z, similarly in Sanskrit, a, ā, …

So our mental speculation and advancement of education is limited between this a and kṣa, akṣa. Akṣa-ja. But Kṛṣṇa is …

So this is difficulty, that we are not very much interested in hearing. And that is the main business. Our …

Now, who is..., who can understand Kṛṣṇa? There are so many impediments. One side, there is curtain of māyā; another …

So unless we become very serious to understand Kṛṣṇa, it is very, very difficult to understand Kṛṣṇa. Māyā-javanikācchannam. The one …

In the Upaniṣads it is said that two birds... The one bird is Paramātmā. Kṛṣṇa has become Paramātmā. It is …