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Nitāi: [indistinct]

Prabhupāda: And why it is that? All right.

Nitāi: Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. Oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya. [devotees repeat] [leads chanting of verse, etc.]

tāmasāc ca vikurvāṇād bhagavad-vīrya-coditāt śabda-mātram abhūt tasmān nabhaḥ śrotraṁ tu śabdagam

[SB 3.26.32]

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"When egoism in ignorance is agitated by the sex energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the subtle element sound …

Prabhupāda:

tāmasāc ca vikurvāṇād bhagavad-vīrya-coditāt śabda-mātram abhūt tasmān nabhaḥ śrotraṁ tu śabdagam

[SB 3.26.32]

So this creation... The beginning of the creation is the sound. The modern physist, they also agree. Sound and light, …

So in the ether there is sound, śabdagam. And from the sound the instrument of hearing is created, śrotram. Similarly, …

So as this material creation has begun from material sound under the agitating, impelling method by the Supreme Personality of …

So our material position and spiritual position---the ultimate point is sound. And this sound is presented in its original spiritual …

cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa- lakṣāvṛteṣu surabhīr abhipālayantam lakṣmī-sahasra-śata-sambhrama-sevyamānaṁ govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi

[Bs. 5.29]

He is offering... He is not claiming himself that "I am the first person for creation," although in this material …

So we have to understand that the creation actually begins in the tamo-guṇa by agitated, impelled, by the Bhāgavata, Bhagavān. …

Devotee: Effervescence.

Prabhupāda: Effervescence, yes. There is effervescence. So that effervescent takes place not due to this chemical, but due to the …