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Harikeśa: It also seems like the only government that would work would be the Vedic government.

Harikeśa: That seems to be the root cause of...

Harikeśa: There was once a few plots exposed, how some governments were ruined because foreign governments

Harikeśa: The government is doing that all the time. They take contracts from people.

Harikeśa: So until the top man is Kṛṣṇa conscious, this cheating will basically continue.

Harikeśa: They can pay them with their phony money.

Harikeśa: So actually it is not possible to change the...

Harikeśa: But the system itself is defective. How can...

Harikeśa: Let's say somebody is a minister...

Harikeśa: ...but his occupation is cheating.

Harikeśa: But he has to stop.

Harikeśa: So then gradually it will become the varṇāśrama, with the one central head.

Harikeśa: So we don't try to make a revolutionary system...

Harikeśa: ...we try to just make them Kṛṣṇa conscious, then it's automatic revolution.

Harikeśa: Your method is also the perfect method---the books in the colleges and libraries, educated

Harikeśa: Yes.

Harikeśa: Nobody plays golf that early in the morning? [break]

Harikeśa: He's learning to reject it.

Harikeśa: It seems unless there is some monarch who is ruling over the whole world, one personality..

Harikeśa: What about those people who don't want to work, they are lazy?