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Harikeśa: Uh...

Harikeśa: Because there's life...

Harikeśa: Oh, you gave the example last night of...

Hari-śauri: The Sixteenth Chapter describes it very nicely.

Haṁsadūta: Haribol. [end]

Harikeśa: So the most subtle form...

Harikeśa: Is the most subtle form of creation the desire of the living entity to enjoy this material

Harikeśa: And then Kṛṣṇa comes to fulfill it.

Harikeśa: Supplies ingredients.

Harikeśa: Is desire a function of consciousness?

Harikeśa: The spirit soul is...

Harikeśa: It's very logical, step by step by step by step.

Harikeśa: So therefore, from that point of view, it's very logical.

Harikeśa: Trying to do it the other way is impossible, from the...

Harikeśa: Empirical process? I don't know if that's the right word. Inductive reasoning?

Harikeśa: I finally understood why you were always talking to Svarūpa Dāmodara about inductive and deductive

Harikeśa: Because it's just not possible to go the other way.

Harikeśa: Because it's beyond the material creation, and you have to use the material senses and mind

Harikeśa: So first prove the existence of God and the existence of the spirit soul...

Harikeśa: ...and then, they'll just have to explain...