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Hari-śauri: That habit is spreading. I've seen in India.

Hari-śauri: Yes. It's laziness.

Hari-śauri: We're learning.

Hari-śauri: [laughs] It's like you said in Māyāpur, it's a little artificial for us. It's very...

Hari-śauri: That's a fact.

Hari-śauri: They know how to look after their bodies.

Hari-śauri: It's just a waste.

Hari-śauri: If you can't prove yourself capable of taking use of better facility, then again you get

Hari-śauri: Well, when we were on the plane in the first class, we were eating with our hand, and I could

Hari-śauri: Yes. "Because I have knife and fork, now I'm civilized."

Hari-śauri: Dirt is very first-class for cleaning.