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Hari-śauri: We have to go left here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Hari-śauri: The material universes are like a produce of Mahā-Viṣṇu.

Hari-śauri: There's no question of independence then.

Hari-śauri: That's like an impersonalist. He doesn't want any individual existence.

Hari-śauri: The desire is ours; it's simply either Kṛṣṇa or māyā.

Hari-śauri: One argument a lot of them use is that, er...

Hari-śauri: The process is to follow some rules and regulations, but they say, "How do you get the strength

Hari-śauri: So it's a question of honesty.

Hari-śauri: Purifies his desires.

Hari-śauri: Still thinking he's this body.

Hari-śauri: It's all a dreamlike existence.