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Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Another part of this question, same question = "If the harijanas, who constitute a sizable

Harijana means "the men of Hari." Just like Nārada. Nārada is called harijana. Great devotee is called harijana, "the persons related with Hari." Become harijana." So this "harijana" word has come from Gandhi. He did not try to make him real harijana. So what is the value of this harijana?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "He had given a positive suggestion that one of the best ways for the harijanas to command

Prabhupāda: Where Vivekananda was there when harijana word was manufactured by Gandhi?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Vivekananda has already died when this harijana name...

Hari-śauri: He's just using the word "harijana" in place of śūdra, or what was formerly "untouchables

Prabhupāda: He can use, but this "harijana" word was manufactured by Gandhi.

his question is, "Swami Vivekananda has given a positive suggestion that one of the best ways for harijanas What incentives can be given to harijanas to learn Sanskrit, the repository of Indian culture and religion

If the harijana actually becomes harijana, then it will benefit. That training we can give. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is that we can make a harijana, a so-called, I mean to say, cāmāras Now they understand harijana means he must be a cāmāra or bhangi. But that is not the actual... Harijana means devotee, "the man of Hari." So in spite of their illiteracy in Sanskrit language, we can make him harijana, actually.

So are you saying then that the harijanas, or these class of people...

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: His question here, Śrīla Prabhupāda, especially is that the harijanas are very downtrodden

chuckles] you are manufacturing wine and advertising, "Come on, take here," and you remain..., become harijana Anyone who wants to become harijana, he can become in spite of all these things.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No, to make the harijanas respectable.

Hari-śauri: [whispering] This is going to be transcribed.

Just like all of a sudden you make a low-class man a harijana. It will not stay. But you can make harijana any class of man provided you adopt the proper means.

Just like this harijana. Harijana is very good idea, make everyone harijana. But harijana is being picked up from the lowest class of men, the bhaṅgis and cāmāras. no question of surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, and if you rubberstamp a low-class man that he has become harijana

Now, Mahatma Gandhi manufactured the harijana, but where there is the teaching that "You take shelter So how this harijana will be effective?

The guidance is wrong, no question of Kṛṣṇa, and he, simply by rubberstamping, "Here is a harijana," He remains the same drunkard, same meat-eater, and he becomes harijana. How it is possible?

Hari-śauri: So it depends on how one acts as to whether he can be accepted as...

Hari-śauri: Jaya, Śrīla Prabhupāda.