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Harikeśa: No, it's done out of love. So it is not at all difficult.

Harikeśa: Yes, go down and see if you like.

Hari-śauri: Actually, he was quite intelligent.

Harikeśa: I was noticing that, that when you finish speaking with somebody, although he's bewildered,

Hari-śauri: Like that man from the Associated Press.

Harikeśa: It's like taming wild animals. The perfect animal trainer. [laughing]

Hari-śauri: And then when we tell them that this is not your business, they ask us, "Why aren't you breaking

Harikeśa: But there's nothing else to do for them.

Harikeśa: [laughs] They have to give up.

Hari-śauri: He was a little bit confused, because first of all you quoted śāstra, said everything was

Hari-śauri: It's because they're so conditioned by this man-made religion.

Hari-śauri: Yes, it's a belief that's...

Hari-śauri: If you actually know God, then...

Harikeśa: We have to get you on every radio in the world, Prabhupāda.

Harikeśa: Oh, everything you say is so wonderful. Just... We have to put you on the radio.

Hari-śauri: If you don't forget Kṛṣṇa, then...

Hari-śauri: This is the most difficult welfare work.

Harikeśa: They don't want it.

Hari-śauri: That's the difficulty.

Hari-śauri: Yes. We have some grapes. Shall I get them?