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Harikeśa: No, that's not very far. And then you went to Pennsylvania.

Harikeśa: And then you went directly to Pennsylvania?

Harikeśa: By bus?

Harikeśa: Travel agent?

Hari-śauri: Dr. Agarwal was your sponsor?

Hari-śauri: In India.

Hari-śauri: And then they suggested that he be your sponsor.

Hari-śauri: That's a long drive.

Harikeśa: Stationwagon.

Hari-śauri: You never actually stayed with him, then.

Hari-śauri: Oh. And just keeping a room at the YMCA.

Hari-śauri: And then he arranged programs, speaking programs, or...?

Harikeśa: Beef bouillion?

Hari-śauri: Yeah. When they're very young and they can't eat solids.

Hari-śauri: Yes, they have instant meals for children. All different kinds of things.

Hari-śauri: So he had you cook for him. You took your cooker with you? Is that the same one?

Hari-śauri: A different one then.

Hari-śauri: Yes, that picture in the Butler Eagle, it's in the Vyāsa-Pūjā book this year.

Hari-śauri: I don't know. Like sound chamber. What do you call it? Like on a tambura.

Hari-śauri: No, we were useless. You were never useless.